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This sounds about right.....

As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air
Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all
of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland
to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks
from the Indiana National Guard. That's where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the plane-even though the plane wasn't
refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100
people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No
vending machines, no means of escape, only a male/female latrine.

It's probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone
was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9
pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons
weren't loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to
customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of
the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind,
this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs
Officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through.
After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to
reinspect our Cargo-just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from
war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding
area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were
carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

So we're in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his
Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better.
A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers.
Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they're going to confiscate his
nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You can't take those on the plane.
Soldier: What? I've had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: You're not suppose to have them.
Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.
Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And
I'm allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you can't use it to take over the plane. You don't have any bullets.

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of
here. I'll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security] To top it
off, the TSA demanded we all be swabbed for "explosive residue" detection.
Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we
tested positive for "Gun Powder Residue". Who the F**K is hiring these people?

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people
re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns-but nothing
that could have been used as a weapon. Can someone please tell me What the F**K?
happened to OUR country while we were gone?

Sgt. Mad Dog Tracy: I think I'd better sell my savings bonds while they still have value.


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Really a great way to treat the people that defends our Freedom....

Makes you wonder where this mess is heading.....

Stev e


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First off...thank you for your service. You guys are doing a great job.

TSA doesn't even require a HS diploma or GED. They are giving power to a lot of uneducated people.

Dirk Pitt

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When my unit went to Utah last summer we got on a bus in Pendleton drove straight on to the tarmac loaded our gear on the plane ourselves and got straight on the plane. Didn't see a single TSA agent the entire time. Guess things have changed...


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the obsurdity is evedence in itself that they don't really expect to keep this in place very long. They need as much airplay and news as possible to keep make sure they can point and say we didn't have anything get through on our watch. they hope to keep enough after the repeal to be useful in keeping an eye on all the "local rebels". We call them patriots. Of course who they really are is yet to be determined. History is written by the winners in any conflict.

This is similar to the Obamacare obscenity that was passed into law against the will of the people. They already have a resolution on the table to repeal it, bu tthey don't have the votes not the backbone to actually finish the job. There aren't enough newcomers in Congress to get this job done.
If they don't get it completely stopped now there will be too much water under the bridge. Too many businesses/jobs will be affected by completely repealing it. It will be another illegal immigrant problem. Both sides want to benefit from obamacare, both sides want to placate the people, but neither side really wants it to completely go away. The insurance companies spend far too much money lobbying congress to completely repeal it. Yes, the insurance industry is who will benefit from obamacare.
They have already run pilot programs and parts of social security benefits are already handled by contract agancies. What we'll end up with is the federal government will contract our healthcare out to large insurance companies, like the Blackwater or Halliburton. We'll get two to choose from, if you don't like ht eservice you get you ca move to the other one. Either way you won't be able to complain to the government, you'll have to take it up with the contract insurance company. The contract insurance company will then do all they legally can to keep healthcare costs down like bannig all smoking, forcing everyone into a fitness program and reducing our benefites if we don't fall into their weight charts, no more french fries, the fast food industry is already under assult, but it will be a thing of the past. And of course the contracting insurance company will receive a check once a month. And also of course, they will be passing out lots of money to keep their contract.

Low Branch

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There is no difference between the letters (D & R) to think that anyone really wants to repeal Obamacare nor stop the complete destruction of the Fourth Amendment. There is not enough people in this country who are smart/awake enough to realize what is happening around them to be angry. Go to an airport and watch the people submit to the scanners like lambs led to the slaughter. Soon you will find these things anywhere people gather. How many of you Charleston guys would like to submit to the scanners at the North Charleston Colosseum should you decide to catch a hockey game. Read the DHS papers and you will find where big fat sis has actually said they want more scanners in more places.

The new republicans will go to Congress and make the show and sit around at night with their democrat friends and laugh at how we drool over the apparent fight. Anyone watch wrestling? Same thing here, choreography.


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The last time I was on a plane was in 2000. Now I drive everywhere, including a trip to NC and back to visit family.
Road Trips...............No stress


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I'm leaving tomorrow evening on a plane for Florida with my AR....I hope I dont encounter "stupid".... :roll:


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If you have any interaction with anyone that works inside of an airport then you will encounter something that qualifies as "stupid."


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So I hear Delta charged returning service members 200 bucks for extra baggage on their flights recently
A big Thank You Very Much.


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I saw that too. I don't remember hearing if Delta reversed the charges, although they did have a nice little PR speech about honoring our men and women and raised the bag limit for the military. Takes care of the future I guess, but did they still stick our boys with the bill?


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Kind of reminds me of when the obamination wanted them to be responsible for their own health care.


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Last time I traveled by air, I shippped my firearms to the hotel I was staying.
They'll hold it till you arrive.

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