Tracking your children, and your guns

[fiundagner]

We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately ? Benjamin Franklin

So a school in San Antonio Texas is acting as a pilot program (wasn?t there a pilot gun running program in the area too, and a ?pilot? gun registry program?...) that requires students to carry an RFID (Radio Frequency) ID badge. Without this badge they can?t, among other things, vote for homecoming court.

This program is supposedly just an effort to reduce truancy, and track attendance for federal and state fund allocation. One student has garnered national attention for her refusal to be tracked

Hernandez also told WND she is not alone in rebelling against the badges. Other students have joined her as well. Hernandez?s father, Steve, is also taking issue with the badge. Eventually, his daughter was permitted to use her old badge but there are ?consequences,? Deputy Superintendent Ray Galindo wrote to her father, to not having the tracking card. Not being able to vote for Homecoming court was one of them.
?He told me in a meeting that if my daughter would proudly wear her student ID card around her neck so everyone could see, he would be able to quietly remove her chip from her student ID card,? Steve Hernandez explained. ?He went on to say as part of the accommodation my daughter and I would have to agree to stop criticizing the program and publicly support ? it. I told him that was unacceptable because it would imply an endorsement of the district?s policy and my daughter and I should not have to give up our constitutional rights to speak out against a program that we feel is wrong.?

Despite what the manufacuters say it was proven at DefCon this year (or possibly last year) that even in a crowded urban environment full of random noise you could reliably track these chips from up to a quarter mile away, not the 200 ft advertised. Additionally these chips contain personal information (home addresses, student ID numbers, etc) that are completely unencrypted. I can see so many ways to abuse this system that it?s not even gallows humor funny. Doesn?t this kinda throw the fourth and fifth, and possibly the first, amendment out the window?

In other news, they are RFIDing your guns now too

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/0 ... er-or-not/

http://www.guntradeworld.com/index.php? ... atest-news

Italian firearm manufacturer Chiappa is introducing a new Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) system into its product line to help increase personal gun security for shooters.
The RFID system is the latest frontier in automatic identification of stolen objects according to Chiappa. This involves having a small microchip inserted into your firearm, which can be read by scanners in a tenth of a second and then supplies the reader with a code and information about the weapon.
Chiappa?s Cinzia Pinzoni said: ?We are currently introducing the RFID system into our production chain, applying microchip identification to all the weapons that we?re manufacturing.
?The information on the microchip can be rewritten, several times over the years, if necessary. Also, the chip is very difficult to remove. Therefore it accompanies the weapon forever, providing all the information gathered regarding its production cycle, as well as sales information and the registration of the gun and the owner?s details.
?So, it is easy to see how this constant monitoring of the weapon provides a powerful deterrent to the theft or improper use of the weapon.?

Nothing to see here, move along

(look up katherine albright and http://www.spychips.com for more information on RFID tracking)

 

[Midnight Raver]

Jeez! Pretty soon everyone, everything, and anything is going to be tagged in the world!!! Is it all REALLY necessary??? :roll:

As far as kids go, the schools notify the parents if kids aren't there and the parents take care of things on their end. If schools can't do their job and parents can't either, will tracking badges solve the problem for everybody? Somehow I don't think so.

 

[fiundagner]

More on this story (from the future even)
http://rt.com/usa/news/texas-school-id-hernandez-033/
Published: 09 October, 2012, 22:34
Edited: 10 October, 2012, 15:23

The Northside Independent School District expects to collect upwards of $2 million in state funding by reversing its poor attendance figures, with the RFID program costing around one-quarter of that sum to initiate and another $136,005 in maintenance. The new funding may not offset the other damages that could arise: Heather Fazio of Texans for Accountable Government told WND that she filed a Freedom of Information Act request for $30 and received the names and addresses of every student in the school district.
?Using this information along with an RFID reader means a predator could use this information to determine if the student is at home and then track them wherever they go. These chips are always broadcasting so anyone with a reader can track them anywhere,? she said.

The state of Texas does it bigger and better. Spending citizens tax dollars instead of making sex offends spend thier own

 

[C_Carson]

The Northside Independent School District expects to collect upwards of $2 million in state funding by reversing its poor attendance figures

And this is what it's all about. Follow the money folks.

 

[John Canuck]

New government intrusive monitoring ID, meet microwave oven. 5 seconds.....

 

[urbancommandox]

Nothing new hk's have been chipped for years. If they bother you pop em out and toss em.

 

[John Canuck]

Nothing new hk's have been chipped for years. If they bother you pop em out and toss em.

Your kids are tracked at school by the chip in their HK's? :shock:

 

[thebrasilian]

I was selling RFID technology a few years ago. The only issue would be is if the personal information is actually added to the card with no encryption. Most systems don't do that. The card has a unique identifier and all the information is kept on a database. You can even use the current database at the school. We targeted schools for about a year. Conspiracy theorist have so much miss information on the subject that we were not able to get any implementation because of parent resistance. Had potential deals from simply replacing library cards to attendance. Parents were just so misinformed.

Most of the time the cards use are call "Passive" technology. The card has no power. They only transmit when they receive energy from transceiver. These typically emit much less energy that your cell phone and sometimes less than a computer monitor.

So in other words nothing to see here.

 

[John Canuck]

Was the personal information on the card in the OP encrypted?

 

[kg4kpg]

My Army and my Navy ID's have a chip on them but my understanding is the same as stated above, it has to be plugged into a reader for the chip to be accessed. I think the only thing they have on them anyway is mostly health related. It's the "new" world, with the advances in technology I don't see any way to avoid it....unless you live totally off of the grid. Of course, maybe they could just barcode the kids with scanners at the exits, so if they try to leave too early the truant officer can nab them. As long as we don't get countdown timers installed in our bodies and have to work for more time to live....

 

[FunkyMonkey]

New government intrusive monitoring ID, meet microwave oven. 5 seconds.....

Absolutely. A hammer works well, especially on the new US Passports.

See my guru http://www.schneier.com/ who has written extensively about RFID. No, it's not a health hazard any more than the credit cards you carry in your wallet. Yes, they are completely insecure.

Cold day in hell when my child wears one. Or my gun. Maybe one day my child will wear my gun, but that's another thread

 

[urbancommandox]

Nothing new hk's have been chipped for years. If they bother you pop em out and toss em.

Your kids are tracked at school by the chip in their HK's? :shock:

Post said gun tracking. Hks have had chips for years. Also rfids are in credit cards and other things. A hacker convention years ago proved they could steal your info from something like thirty yards away. Ask people over seas or in sensitive jobs about there rfid blocking wallets and passport keepers.

 

[John Canuck]

Yes, I guess the comedic nature of my question wasn't obvious. Sorry.

What's new about this, is the availability of a complete list of students available via FOIA, along with the personal data on an unnecessary ID card. I know my kids will never carry one of these without it being cooked in the microwave first.

 

[fiundagner]

http://www.infowars.com/student-expelle ... fid-badge/

After months of protesting a policy requiring high school students to wear an RFID-enabled ID badge around their necks at all times, Andrea Hernandez is being involuntarily withdrawn from John Jay High School in San Antonio effective November 26th, according to a letter sent by the district that has now been made public.
Hernandez? case first made news back in August, when the school tried to impose the new technology at the start of the school year. John Jay HS, along with other participating schools, stands to receive $2 million dollars in state funding for a program supposedly instituted to reduce tardiness and truancy. However, Hernandez and other students only qualified for the magnet school by having good attendance, grades and test scores in the first place.

Ahh? escalation. The sweet, sweet fruit of bureaucracy. You will comply, or else you will pay use to fight and punish you for disobedience. Aren?t public schools and taxation without representation (and the suspension of your fourth amendment right) wonderful. Its almost like they are trying to accustom the next generation to being tracked 24-7. Hmmm??

 

[urbancommandox]

http://www.infowars.com/student-expelled-for-refusing-location-tracking-rfid-badge/

After months of protesting a policy requiring high school students to wear an RFID-enabled ID badge around their necks at all times, Andrea Hernandez is being involuntarily withdrawn from John Jay High School in San Antonio effective November 26th, according to a letter sent by the district that has now been made public.
Hernandez? case first made news back in August, when the school tried to impose the new technology at the start of the school year. John Jay HS, along with other participating schools, stands to receive $2 million dollars in state funding for a program supposedly instituted to reduce tardiness and truancy. However, Hernandez and other students only qualified for the magnet school by having good attendance, grades and test scores in the first place.

Ahh? escalation. The sweet, sweet fruit of bureaucracy. You will comply, or else you will pay use to fight and punish you for disobedience. Aren?t public schools and taxation without representation (and the suspension of your fourth amendment right) wonderful. Its almost like they are trying to accustom the next generation to being tracked 24-7. Hmmm??

Seems like it was a school for the gifted not public school. So I guess its their way or back to public school with you.