SSAR-15

Pops · Jul 24, 2011

I went to a gunshow on Saturday and stumbled across two dealers selling the SSAR-15.
SSAR-15 home page
i had to force myself to leave and get some lunch. I was very impressed with the simplicity of design and obviousness of how it works. I was standing next to a pile of guys flopping around on the floor over the $350 price tag.
They even have a left handed model. I'm not left handed, but I reconed it was thoughtful of them . . .

Anyway, I watched the videos and was convinced it would work as a poorman's rock 'n roll rifle, so I shot the roll on one.
Slidefire dealer with demonstration videos

The rifle actually moves in your hand so it will be a different kind of experience than a real full auto AR-15.
I don't even have an AR-15 rifle to put it on! :shock: :shock: I am in process of acquiring one, its taking a while as I have to save up the money, I can't affort to plop out the price of an AR without some serious self dicipline.
I am planning to have all the missing parts worked out by the Fall Shootzenfest though.

anybody have one of these? any luck with them?

Pops

Avtomat-Acolyte · Jul 24, 2011

I'm patiently awaiting the day when the ATF reverses it's previous decision and outlaws this item.

It will happen and that's one of the primary reasons why I won't purchase one.

HHB Guns · Jul 24, 2011

I hope that doesn't happen but its only going to take some crazed gunman with one of these stocks to kill a few people quickly and the media will be so big that atf will indeed be questioned into banning it..Although it has been on the market for a year so far with no problems so maybe it wont be an issue but the videos on that site aren't helping with the hype...They reference it several times as shooting "full auto"...That will be the problem. The wrong people seeing them call it full auto will indeed push for it to be banned.

Frost · Jul 24, 2011

If select fire was not out of reach of the ordinary citizen there would be no market for unregulated things like these.

Avtomat-Acolyte · Jul 24, 2011

Frost said:
If select fire was not out of reach of the ordinary citizen there would be no market for unregulated things like these.

If there weren't gun laws there wouldn't be gun crime.

I hate to be pessimistic about this device's short-lived legality but the BATF has demonstrated time and again their abject refusal to adhere to Federal Law or the US Constitution. Things that are legal are made illegal without Congressional review or consultation at whim. This item will not be allowed to exist long enough for the initial cost to outweigh the inevitable loss, at least with me, personally.

Clicker · Jul 24, 2011

Quit with all the gloom and doom talk, you guys need to just cowboy up and buy one already.

Hell what's the worst that could happen - the ATF makes you send in the spring and you have an expensive and ugly CAR stock for your AR15.
Just ask all those guys that bought an Akins Accelerator stock for their 10/22's if they feel like they got reamed.

HHB Guns · Jul 24, 2011

Watch the video clicker. There is no spring. It is just a stock that free floats.

Pops · Jul 24, 2011

Indeed, there is no spring. They even mentioned something called a HellCat something or other that was determined to be illegal. It just floats about the distance of the trigger pull and will not function unless you push forward on the gun itself. It looks kind of "interesting" the way the entire rifle moves forward and backward. I've watched the videos several times and I spoke to the seller, at great length. The item has no serial number, as it is simply an accessory. The box includes two letters (photocopies), one letter where the manufacturer sent a sample to the ATF and the other a copy of the return letter from the ATF confirming it is legal.
Obviously, I will agree with Avtomat-Acolyte that they are free to change the law as seems politically useful to their purpose. I've even considered it will be a bargaining chip as something we loose in order to keep something else. Glock 18 magazines, for example.

And hell yes it will hurt to get shafted out of the money, but! what if they stop production and allow me to pay the $200 tax and keep it as a class three device? could be one possible option. Otherwise I'll just deal with it then like any good law abiding citizen.

That's my hope and my plan and I'm sticking to it.

PS: I was told there will be an AK47 version on the market in the third quarter of 2011 . . .

Pops!

Enjay · Jul 24, 2011

Pops said:
PS: I was told there will be an AK47 version on the market in the third quarter of 2011 . . .

Pops!

I'm seeing a stocking stuffer...

Pops · Jul 24, 2011

They come in a box that looks like a small pizza so they'll be easy to put plenty of them on Santa's sleigh.

If it does what it's supposed to do I see one for all the good little boys and girls.

See, it is good I make up my bed. . .

Schultz · Jul 25, 2011

Too rich for me.

Avtomat-Acolyte · Jul 25, 2011

Pops said:
Indeed, there is no spring. They even mentioned something called a HellCat something or other that was determined to be illegal. It just floats about the distance of the trigger pull and will not function unless you push forward on the gun itself. It looks kind of "interesting" the way the entire rifle moves forward and backward. I've watched the videos several times and I spoke to the seller, at great length. The item has no serial number, as it is simply an accessory. The box includes two letters (photocopies), one letter where the manufacturer sent a sample to the ATF and the other a copy of the return letter from the ATF confirming it is legal.
Obviously, I will agree with Avtomat-Acolyte that they are free to change the law as seems politically useful to their purpose. I've even considered it will be a bargaining chip as something we loose in order to keep something else. Glock 18 magazines, for example.

And hell yes it will hurt to get shafted out of the money, but! what if they stop production and allow me to pay the $200 tax and keep it as a class three device? could be one possible option. Otherwise I'll just deal with it then like any good law abiding citizen.

That's my hope and my plan and I'm sticking to it.

PS: I was told there will be an AK47 version on the market in the third quarter of 2011 . . .

Pops!