Sportsmans Warehouse

thebrasilian

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Went to Sportsmans Warehouse today just to look a round. The older gent comes up to me and asks if he can help. I wanted to see the Sig 380. Haven't touched one. He handed it to me and said $550. I said "Really? Why?" "It's made only out of machined parts. No stampings."
Gave it back to him and asked to see the Taurus PT738. He hands it to me and tells me the price. I said:
"Why you I pay that kind of money on the sig when this appears to be made the same?"
"Oh all 380's are junk. You need a .38 with +P in a snub nose."
He went on a little rant about how ineffective the 380's were. I wanted to contest his comments but couldn't get a word in. He talk about horrible penetration, half the bullet sticks out a board at 10'...then it was all blah, blah, blah to me.
I guess ignorance is bliss.

Now I know a 380 is not a primary carry weapon unless your at the beach and want to get wet. But any gun is better than no gun and the modern 380 round is something that does work. I was just shocked by the comments from the guy behind the counter.
 

jmt2566

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thebrasilian said:
But any gun is better than no gun and the modern 380 round is something that does work. I was just shocked by the comments from the guy behind the counter.
+1

Bow_breaker said:
The .380 in your pocket is better than the 1911 you let sit in the dresser. :D
+1

I agree with both of you! I'll bet that the salesman doesn't carry his .38 everywhere.

Jeff
 

pender1

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I've found that working a gun counter must only require very basic knowledge of guns. Heard some pretty moronic things said by salesmen before.
 

Frost

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The thing about people who work at gun shops is they must have an opinion about every gun.
It does not have to be right, they just have to have one.
 

Maddog

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Many people seem to think that working at a gun shop / counter instantly makes them an expert...and we all know how that goes. However I do wish to point out that a .380 with the right PD ammo is a very effective CCW weapon. I currently carry the Sig P238 and have carried the Keltec P3AT and have never worried about the effectiveness if I had to use it for my defense. However shot placement is king, a well placed .380 is going to be much more effective than a poorly placed .45 and I can attest to this, the where and when and the situations do not matter.

I really like the Sig P238 and since its like, IMHO a mini 1911, of which I have several all in .45 ACP I can bring it to bear and and take the safety down with out thought, which with the P238 would be the only drawback ,again IMHO, as compared to a long draw on the P3AT. Someone not use to the external safety will need to practice with it until its second nature.....Now I have been to the Sportsman in Columbia and I have heard things similar to your experience, the only thing worse than a Counter Cowboy is a know it all customer trying to disparage another person selection of a firearm....nuff said.
 

DEO VINDICE

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a .380 with the right PD ammo is a very effective CCW weapon
I too carry a P238. A friend told me yesterday that it doesn't matter if my bullets will expand "because .45 Auto aint' never been known to shrink." I think he made a humorous yet valid point.
 

armedpig

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How about this. The next time someone starts on how the .380 is inneffective, ask them if they will volunteer to get shot by one.

And I agree with the above stated that a gun no matter the size is better than no gun, and shot placement is everything.
 

thebrasilian

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armedpig said:
How about this. The next time someone starts on how the .380 is inneffective, ask them if they will volunteer to get shot by one.
I'm going to use that one. Maybe stage it with my wife looking at it.
 

Dirk Pitt

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Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable with anything less than .38 Special or 9mm, but the .380 in your pocket will always be better than the 1911 in your glove box.
 

Frost

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.380 is the smallest round I have any measure of confidence in.
Mind you not that I want to be shot with anything...
 

Midnight Raver

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Getting hit with #6 bird shot and 9x19mm jacket fragments is, shall we say, moderately aggravating to say the least.

I'm in NO mood to be hit with anything else. :evil:
 
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