carsontech
Well-Known Member
I haven't seen this posted on here, yet, so I thought I would do so. If S. 1255 is passes in it's current form, it would allow a permit holder to carry in a establishment that serves alcohol, in SC. If the establishment is posted, it would be a misdemeanor to enter the establishment armed. It would also be a misdemeanor if you consume alcohol while armed in an establishment that serves alcohol.
http://scstatehouse.gov/sess119_2011-2012/bills/1255.htm
I personally DON'T agree that the government should be able to tell citizens they can't patronize an establishment that serves alcohol and consume alcohol while armed. I believe that should be a decision left to the owner of the establishment. I also don't think someone should be charged, instantly, with a misdemeanor just for entering an establishment that is posted. I personally believe that if the owner doesn't want someone on their property, let the owner, or person in charge, tell the person to leave. If the person doesn't leave, then the owner can call the police to charge the person with trespassing. That is how things work in many other states.
BUT, looking back on how politics in SC work, I think this would be a good bill to get behind and push forward. Maybe we can even convince the legislatures to amend the bill to give back the right to decide who can drink alcohol in the establishment back to the owners. I believe the key to freedom is repealing laws, not adding or changing existing ones, but this may be a start.
"Section 16-23-465.
In addition to the penalties provided for by Sections 16-11-330, 16-11-620, and 16-23-460, and 23-31-220 and by Article 1 of Chapter 23 of Title 16, a person is guilty of a misdemeanor, and, upon conviction, must be imprisoned not more than two years or fined not more than two thousand dollars, or both, if that person:
(1) carries a firearm into a business that sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises and at the time of the offense, notice of the prohibition of firearms was clearly and conspicuously posted in accordance with Section 23-31-220;
(2) carries a firearm into a business that sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises and refuses to leave or to remove the firearm from the premises when asked to do so by a person legally in control of the premises; or
(3) consumes alcohol while carrying a firearm in a business that sells alcoholic liquor, beer, or wine for consumption on the premises."
http://scstatehouse.gov/sess119_2011-2012/bills/1255.htm
I personally DON'T agree that the government should be able to tell citizens they can't patronize an establishment that serves alcohol and consume alcohol while armed. I believe that should be a decision left to the owner of the establishment. I also don't think someone should be charged, instantly, with a misdemeanor just for entering an establishment that is posted. I personally believe that if the owner doesn't want someone on their property, let the owner, or person in charge, tell the person to leave. If the person doesn't leave, then the owner can call the police to charge the person with trespassing. That is how things work in many other states.
BUT, looking back on how politics in SC work, I think this would be a good bill to get behind and push forward. Maybe we can even convince the legislatures to amend the bill to give back the right to decide who can drink alcohol in the establishment back to the owners. I believe the key to freedom is repealing laws, not adding or changing existing ones, but this may be a start.