Black Rifles Purchasing full autos

thebrasilian · Dec 28, 2011

Can the public buy a new full auto?
If so, what's involved and what is the cost for registration?
I know the about the $200 deal for suppressors and SBRs. Is it the same for full auto?

carsontech · Dec 28, 2011

Anything full auto, or full auto parts such as sears and bolts, manufactured after 1986 is restricted unless you have the certain licenses for manufacturing or putting together parts manufactured after 1986.

GunCite seems like a pretty informative site. Combine that along with Wikipedia and a few forums to confirm the info, and I think I have it partly right in a short, simple, explination, lol.

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcfullau.html

Now lets here from the actual people with experience, because I have no money for a full auto or parts to convert a gun to full auto, therefore I don't research much about it.. :mrgreen:

thebrasilian · Dec 28, 2011

Well that is just ridiculous! If you have the license to manufacture them who could you sell them to?

armedpig · Dec 28, 2011

thebrasilian said:
Well that is just ridiculous! If you have the license to manufacture them who could you sell them to?

Law enforcement agencies, other class 2 or 7 FFLs who may not have the experience or time to build such an item, government agencies just to name a few.

Clicker · Dec 28, 2011

In a nut shell no we, the public, can't own newly manufactured MG's. We can own any MG that was registered with the ATF before May 19th 1986. These are commonly known as "transferable" machine guns.

Any new (post 86) MG's are for the military or LE only.

You will find there are plenty of "NIB" transferable MG's for sale..............if your pockets are deep enough. Yes the same $200 tax applies.

armedpig · Dec 28, 2011

You can get in to the full auto world for as little as 2-$3000. That would buy you a MAC. The price only goes up from there depending on what you want and how many are transferable.

Clicker · Dec 28, 2011

armedpig said:
depending on what you want and how many are transferable.

I don't really understand what you're saying there since any MG the OP would purchase would have to be transferable. Perhaps I missed something.

HHB Guns · Dec 28, 2011

I pay dearly every year for the one Post 16 I have. My liability insurance went up almost $2000 a year + the $500 class 3 license each year. The main reason I went class 3 was to get the post toys for myself and business has been pretty good since getting the license but not 100% sold if it was a good idea. I think I am paying $2500 a year to play with my 16 but the biggest difference is if I quit paying that $2500 I lose the 16 and have nothing to show for all the money I spent. It would be a different story If I had an endless pocket book and had a safe full of post guns but this is not the case so....

If I would have thought this out I would have just saved up for 5 years and bought a transferable model which would hold its value.

armedpig · Dec 29, 2011

Clicker said:
armedpig said:

depending on what you want and how many are transferable.

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I don't really understand what you're saying there since any MG the OP would purchase would have to be transferable. Perhaps I missed something.

I guess I could have left that part off. Basicly it is a law of supply and demand for the most part. MACs are abundant and are relatively cheap, others are rare and wanted by many so they are relatively expensive(think 6 figures). Alot of guns/sears can be had for under $10,000.

Tigerstripe · Dec 29, 2011

it is kind of hard to grasp. i think most people dont know we can own pre 86 full autos.

if there are 80 million gun owners in the US you would think a lot of them would want a full auto.

the bad part is i heard, read or was told, that there are only about 250,000 transferables.

of course thats why they cost so much, but i think if 20 million people tried to get them they would cost way more than now.

Ruben Mendiola is the man. he is in Miami. thats where i got mine. Colt AR-15 model 614 select fire. He said a police dept bought 100, there were 500 cops (Detroit or somewhere such) and they couldnt decide who would get them so they were in a safe for the last 45 or 50 years. it looks new. i turned it into an M4 with extra uppers and will never sell it. some of you have fired it and it especially makes me happy to let a kid or someone that has never shot auto fire it. i laugh and smile with every 22 mag dump.

i dont know how to post the site. find out how to spell STURMGEWHER, or STURMGEWEHR yeah the 2nd on.. type it into a search.
when it comes up click on NFA guns and be amazed.

Subguns.com has most of the same ads.