bigfutz
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I'm fairly new to the forum. Have we ever done a swap meet? I know a few of us may have small items FS/FT/WTB. It's sometimes hard to coordinate time and place to meet FTF.
PSF Swap Meet
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fordnut
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Some of us have done some swap meet tries at Shootzenfest....Shultz did some swapping at one of them...And Layfette and I did some, also...
I always have "Stuff" and I know others do, also...Guess we could plan something for Shootzenfest again ...
Steve
I always have "Stuff" and I know others do, also...Guess we could plan something for Shootzenfest again ...
Steve
biganimal
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great idea
any volunteers to set it up?
but having it at a National Forest range is not a good idea
any volunteers to set it up?
but having it at a National Forest range is not a good idea
Schultz
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biganimal said:
Why is that? It's where we've done it before.
ReefShark
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Sounds like a great idea to me...
Geezer
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When is the next Shootzenfest? I'm gonna try to make the next one.
Dave29461
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Up at the Philson Crossroads fest, the old man who picks up the brass was cautioning Big Animal and I about swapping at the range because that is suppose to be "unlawful" to do at a national park range. I don't know if that is true or BS. Who can we ask without arousing scrutiny?
fordnut
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David: I talked to the guy at the last Shootzenfest...He was just mad because we took out brass with us...I think that was a BS story....
If we were a buisness selling new guns, that might be a problem...but, I don't think a small swap meet would make any difference to any one...
Steve
If we were a buisness selling new guns, that might be a problem...but, I don't think a small swap meet would make any difference to any one...
Steve
biganimal
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I have sent a question to the US Forestry Dept asking if it is or isn't legal to conduct trades between citizens on these ranges. I'm waiting for a reply. If I don't hear back soon I will make a few calls this coming week.
Dave29461
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Thanks, Big Animal
Steve I don't know how he could be too peeved. My son and his buddy left enough berdan primed brass to make his whole day. :lol:
Steve I don't know how he could be too peeved. My son and his buddy left enough berdan primed brass to make his whole day. :lol:
Geezer
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Dave29461 said:
This just may explain the peeved part. lol
Frost
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Pops would know for sure as he is the one who gets permission for us to use the range as a group.
I think the restriction is against a dealer selling things there without getting a permit.
I know nothing about the permits other than you must have one to sell things.
I would not believe there could be any restriction on swapping between individuals.
I too have some stuff I would like to swap.
I think the restriction is against a dealer selling things there without getting a permit.
I know nothing about the permits other than you must have one to sell things.
I would not believe there could be any restriction on swapping between individuals.
I too have some stuff I would like to swap.
I spoke to the Forestry Service about a swap meet component when we first started doing ShootzenFests.
The official answer is: You can sell stuff at the range, but you have to apply for and pay for a permit ahead of time.
I was told we could sell something prior to the ShootzenFest and transfer it at the range as long as there's no money changing hands.
The forestry service has rules they haveto go by for everyone.
To date no one has wanted to go through the steps to acquire a permit, so I don't know how much it costs or even who to ask about it. I'd have to do the footwork myself.
Setting up tables would eventually cause a problem if we tried to avoid the permitting process.
But, if there are enough people interested we can certainly look into, We may find the permit is only $5 for the day, I don't know.
Pops
:shock:
The official answer is: You can sell stuff at the range, but you have to apply for and pay for a permit ahead of time.
I was told we could sell something prior to the ShootzenFest and transfer it at the range as long as there's no money changing hands.
The forestry service has rules they haveto go by for everyone.
To date no one has wanted to go through the steps to acquire a permit, so I don't know how much it costs or even who to ask about it. I'd have to do the footwork myself.
Setting up tables would eventually cause a problem if we tried to avoid the permitting process.
But, if there are enough people interested we can certainly look into, We may find the permit is only $5 for the day, I don't know.
Pops
:shock:
Oh, and as for the old curmudgeon at Philson, He's just someone who keeps the ranges clean in exchange for the free brass.
He was a bit frustrated about loosing so much brass, bu tnone of it's his until the original owner has left for the day.
He was rather rude to several people, but I chose not to confront him since that rarely improves the attitude of someone with that much disregaurd for people he doesn't know.
I think he harrassed several people that afternoon. I listened to a little of it, but I eventially just walked away from him.
Its kind of sad in a way, I think he's a disabled vet so I gave him a wide field rather than complain about him.
Some people say there's a woman to blame, but I know, it probably his own damned fault. . .
Pops,
He was a bit frustrated about loosing so much brass, bu tnone of it's his until the original owner has left for the day.
He was rather rude to several people, but I chose not to confront him since that rarely improves the attitude of someone with that much disregaurd for people he doesn't know.
I think he harrassed several people that afternoon. I listened to a little of it, but I eventially just walked away from him.
Its kind of sad in a way, I think he's a disabled vet so I gave him a wide field rather than complain about him.
Some people say there's a woman to blame, but I know, it probably his own damned fault. . .
Pops,
mcdaniel
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How about, "Don't ask, Dont tell?"
Just lay your stuff for sale on the shooting benches near you and if you see something you like ask about it. Almost everything is for sale for the right price anyway so just start a conversation. If its more than trading some 9mm for some 45 then go out to the nearest parking lot and swap cash.
IMHO discretion is (nearly) always an acceptable answer.
Just lay your stuff for sale on the shooting benches near you and if you see something you like ask about it. Almost everything is for sale for the right price anyway so just start a conversation. If its more than trading some 9mm for some 45 then go out to the nearest parking lot and swap cash.
IMHO discretion is (nearly) always an acceptable answer.
Dave29461
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I would like to see how much the permit would be. We want to be welcome at these ranges for years to come. If the price isn't too steep and those who wish to barter get together and finance the permit I'll go in on that deal.
Dave
get together and finance the permit I'll go in on that deal.Dave
fordnut
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I am in total agreement with David. I will help on the cost of the permit...
Steve
Steve
Tigerstripe
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i was with a group Sunday at Philsons and saw the brass guy.
sorry to say he just had to have his toe removed because of diabettes.
before they put up the brass bin he used to tell us all kinds of things like a person could not pick up someone elses brass.
he will sell you what he has collected though.
sorry to say he just had to have his toe removed because of diabettes.
before they put up the brass bin he used to tell us all kinds of things like a person could not pick up someone elses brass.
he will sell you what he has collected though.
Sorry to hear about his health problems.
I have a friend who has diabetes real bad and he gets a lot of issues from the circulation problems.
There seems to be very little he can do to alleviate his problems. Once the diabetes gets that bad its a one way trip.
we still need to give him a wide berth at any rate if we can't just ignore him.
I doubt he'll get out of his truck to come down to the range while everyone is there.
I have a friend who has diabetes real bad and he gets a lot of issues from the circulation problems.
There seems to be very little he can do to alleviate his problems. Once the diabetes gets that bad its a one way trip.
we still need to give him a wide berth at any rate if we can't just ignore him.
I doubt he'll get out of his truck to come down to the range while everyone is there.
