My son has been showing great interest to harvest his first deer so I ordered him the New Marlin X7Y in .308 this week. $287 with a scope wasn't bad. It was $285 for the same gun without scope and rings so I figured I could take the mounts and scope and sell it on gunbroker for more than $2.00. I put talley lightweight rings and my redfield 3-9x40 Revolution on it for him. I found in hogdon's 2009 book they had a few youth reduced recoil loads that make the .308 feel like a .243. So I bought some 130 Grain Barnes TTSX and H4895 with 36.5 Gr. and its still pushing it at 2500 FPS without the recoil. This was the gun can grow with him and when he is ready he can go to regular .308. Can't wait to get it to the range this weekend and see what the gun, loads, and my son can do. Will give a full review. I heard nothing but good reviews for the price so we will see.