Looking into Mosin Nagants . . .

BottleCapBandit · Jul 7, 2011

The past few months I have been falling more and more in love with my buddies Mosin Nagants.
Now I have come to the conclusion that I NEED one in my collection.
He has an M44 and a 91/30 and he is looking into getting an M38 as well.
I'm sure I will be purchasing more than 1 down the road but I'm just looking for something not to pricey to start my old mil surp collection. I'm leaning toward a 91/30 because I'm finding them around the $85-$150 range.
I was just wondering if you guys had any advice on purchasing my 1st one or even where to go to find the best deal on one?
I'm thinking ill probably go out and about this coming Tuesday to try and get my hands on one so any words of wisdom from you guys would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jon

biganimal · Jul 7, 2011

I have a nice one that has been cleaned up real nice and I'm in summerville
it shoots real nice

fordnut · Jul 7, 2011

I have the M44...I shoot it a lot and I love it...Lots of people on this Forum have shot mine...
I like the shorter m44 than the long one...but, th eM44 in more expensive.

AIM Surplus has them for sale on their website, right now. They are getting about $200.00 for them. Then you have to add shipping and local FFL costs...

To me, if you can find a local Nagant, you should be paying about $175.00 to $200. for the M44. You should be able to get the 91/30 for around $125.00...

The ammo is available on line for about $80.00 for 450 rounds. That is a great price...

Hope this helps.

Steve

Pops · Jul 7, 2011

GTrav picked up an M44 two weeks ago, very very nice rifle for the money.
I had already made a deal of the month on a pistol I wanted or I'd have gotten one too!

I shot FordNut's Nagant at the ShootzenFest adn I really liked it. It packs a whollup, but that's half the fun!
It's loud too. . . the bullet it shoots weighs about a half a pound.

Pops

BottleCapBandit · Jul 7, 2011

oh I definitely agree with fordnut. I like the shorter M44 as well apposed to the nearing 6ft tall 91/30s. The only reason I am leaning towards the 91/30 is its my first one and I don't wanna have to much wrapped up into a learning experience in case I "mess anything up". I've shot the M44 a good bit in its original stock as well as in one of those center balance bullpup stock and I am definitely in the market for one but since they are a little more pricey I wanna shop around and find a really nice one.

Does anyone know if anyone has a good stock of them locally? I saw on armslist a while back a place in Lexington had them for $100 plus taxes but with gas prices I'd probably be better ordering one through Henry @ HHB

DblTap.45 · Jul 7, 2011

Here ya go: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... s_id=70783 $99.00 shipped to your FFL. Hard to beat, i purchased 3 of them from Buds last year. Happy with every one of them.

PCShogun · Jul 7, 2011

If you have never considered it, now is a good time to think about getting a C&R license (FFL-03) Paper work is minimal, it is cheap ($30 gets you a 3 year license), and many vendors will give you discounts if you send them a signed copy of your license. You will save the $30 on your first rifle usually.

$99 is a great price for a VG condition 91/30. Should include the accessories for that price (Bayonet, ammo pouch, firing pin adjustment / break down tool, sling.

M44's have gone up in price and recently were selling for $199 (FFL-01/03 prices) and they were pretty beat up Polish models.

I have not see a M38 outside a private collection for the past two years.

Ammo for the Mosin's is still very cheap. New rounds go for about $6 a box for new (30 cents per round) or $89 a case for surplus (440 rounds or about 20 cents per round).

Overall, they are great, and super cheap, rifles. You will spend a little time cleaning it up and tweaking it here and there to get it running good, but if its been arsenal refinished, should not give you any major problems.

biganimal · Jul 7, 2011

I reload for mine ( 3 91/30's and a finn mod 27 and a polish 44) with cast bullets I can shoot for next to nuthing

GTrav · Jul 7, 2011

Got my M 44 from http://www.aimsurplus.com two weeks ago and have been very pleased with what I received. You can get a 1891/30 from $70 - $100. Classic Arms in Charlotte, NC sold out of their first shipment, but I think they're back in stock ($75). Shot Fordnut's at the Shootzenfest and had to have one. Rifle and ammo is cheap and they are fun to shoot and make a lot of noise!

dosboot · Jul 8, 2011

I have dealt with Darrell many times.
http://www.scgunco.com/
He will be at the gunshow in Columbia and I know he does the show in Ladson. He runs a show special of $119 on 91/30s and you can pick the one you want.

fordnut · Jul 8, 2011

At the last gun show in Ladson..SGGUNS was there and had some M-44's. They now have then listed on their website...

Greer is not that far away..Roadtrip to M-44 Land...

Steve

lafayette gregory · Jul 8, 2011

Careful, careful, Moisins are liike pistachios.
M-38
M-38 laminate
91-59
Chinese Type 38
Polish M-44
Russian m-44
laminate m- 44
1891 Moisin Russian, Winchester, Westinghouse and Remington
91-30 too many variations to mention
91/30 sniper original and repro are great too.
Etc.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

BottleCapBandit · Jul 8, 2011

PCShogun that is a fantastic idea. I have spent a good bit of my workday reading about it (shhhh don't tell my boss) and I believe it would save me a good bit of money in the long run because like I said earlier. This is my first but I already know I am going to be wanting more. From what I have been reading it doesn't sound very difficult but I could be wrong. Do any of you guys have for C&R license? if so, was it difficult to get everything filled out? I read something about needing a CLEO signature or name or something.

Dave29461 · Jul 8, 2011

Very Easy and Berkeley CLEO was no problem. Call Dorchester Sheriff office and see how the wind blows there. I think if you pass the background check you are good to go. It has saved me many dollars and cost me even more.

lafayette gregory · Jul 9, 2011

For a C&R you do not need a CLEO signoff. That is only for a claas III transfer.
You are required to send to the CLEO a copy of the c&R application. There is no requirement that you prove that you did so! Many Cleo's do not keep these docunments.

Dave29461 · Jul 9, 2011

I didn't know that. I turned mine in at the Sheriff's office and thought they had to sign off and send it back to the Feds. Live and learn!

BottleCapBandit · Jul 9, 2011

So essentially all I'm going to need to do is Print the form off of the BATFE website. Fill to out. Mail the Original in with the $30 fee. Mail a copy of the Original to the CLEO in my area. and then wait . . .
Did I miss anything?
I read over the forms earlier and everything seemed pretty simple. I just need to go back and get all my old apartment address from the past 5 years.

lafayette gregory · Jul 10, 2011

BottleCapBandit said:
So essentially all I'm going to need to do is Print the form off of the BATFE website. Fill to out. Mail the Original in with the $30 fee. Mail a copy of the Original to the CLEO in my area. and then wait . . .
Did I miss anything?
I read over the forms earlier and everything seemed pretty simple. I just need to go back and get all my old apartment address from the past 5 years.

Dats bout it.

PCShogun · Jul 11, 2011

I hand delivered my copy to the Hanahan Police also and got them to sign it. Figured I'd be nice and give them that courtesy. Saved me the 44 cents too

Write down in a book whenever you buy a weapon, write down in the book when you sell one, and write it down in the book if one leaves your possession for more than 24 hours. That is about it for the paperwork.

The FFL-03 is a collectors license and does not allow you to sell weapons for profit on a for business basis. You can do it for legit reasons, such as, "Hey, I found a better one!"

BottleCapBandit · Jul 11, 2011

haha yea i read somewhere that you are allowed to sell guns you have purchased with it to "clean out your safe" but not as your source of income. I'm very interested in and plan getting one I just gotta get all my address info together and then send it off.