Hey help, for a .223

[DuraCoat29483]

I am reloading 223, and some loads say small rifle primers, ie CCI 400s, and some say CCI 450s for certain loads. But my quesion is, does anyone know what the equivalant for the CCI's are? Like what does remington make, or winchester, etc. My books all say CCI, and there for seem to be some what favorite towards a brand of primers. I just want to get a hold of some other primers that would do just as well, from other good companies, but i dont know what to buy, thanks

 

[Schultz]

I've never used CCI 450's. Alternatives are Wolf and Winchester small rifle primers , Both are equally as good as CCI.

 

[DuraCoat29483]

so as long as they say small rifle primers, then they are good? that is what i am asking, or what the name of the same primer would be, like i have seen some that say 6 1/2 and 7/12 for small rifles, and i am lost. Not book i have says to use those, all say CCIs. A hordy. book i have says uses CCI 450 for a compressed load on 55gr rounds

 

[Schultz]

so as long as they say small rifle primers, then they are good? that is what i am asking, or what the name of the same primer would be, like i have seen some that say 6 1/2 and 7/12 for small rifles, and i am lost. Not book i have says to use those, all say CCIs. A hordy. book i have says uses CCI 450 for a compressed load on 55gr rounds

I've never seen 450's, How old is the book your looking at? As long as it says small rifle primers you will be ok.


BTW you might want to reduce that sig picture a bit your scaring my cat. :shock: :lol:

 

[WILDCATT]

most books are put out by manufacturer so they tout their brand.
Lee and lyman dont make ammo some others are related to ammo makers.any small rifle primer is good. I use any I can get.

 

[Sandlapper]

Here is a link for cross referencing primers:
http://www.handloads.com/misc/primers.asp
If you are using a reloading handbook from a reputable source (powder manufacturer etc.) then I would assume the load recommendation to be good (with the EXACT components given). Substituting ANYTHING changes the pressure.
For instance, according to the info I read, Federal primers are hotter and create more pressure than say, Winchester or CCI. They aren't either better or worse than other brands, they just create more pressure because of their manufacturing methods and make up. Since this increased pressure isn't known to the reloader (unless a Federal primer is specified in the load data), it would be wise to begin with the STARTING LOAD if given. If not given, begin 10% less than the maximum load and work upward in 5 increments.
By the way, beginning with the STARTING LOAD and working upward in 5 steps while inspecting your fired brass for signs of overpressure is good advice with most reloading but a necessity when substituting components.

PS - +1 on the "BTW" from Schultz. Not necessary.

 

[DuraCoat29483]

Thanks that link is what i was looking for