Need a little more info like how many firearms do you have at present and future purchase plans? How much can you afford to spend? Also room to put the safe is important as well, If you have a concrete foundation your good on any size however if you have wood floors with a crawl space you will be limited as to what size you'll be able to put in your home.
Fire rating is important IMO IE: how long it takes the heat/fire to get through the safe. The better rating you have the safer you'll be however the price is higher also. You will also need a Desiccant can or see if it has a provision for a Electric Dehumidifier.
Myself i have a Liberty Franklin series model 50 safe here http://www.libertysafe.com/safe_franklin.php It's rated to hold 41 rifles but if your good more can go in it and the shelves can hold quite a few pistols. My only gripe with it is the shelves could be a little stronger. Like with most safes the shelves are made out of press board and need to be supported depending on how much you put on them(I know this from experience :lol: )
well I want to put it in a upstairs closet, So weight and size are considerations. I have a spot thats 28.75" wide and 18" deep that would be best. Thoes are my main constraints. I would like it to hold black guns also without them rattling around the bottom.
I think mine is a liberty, but one of the older and low budget ones. Its aprox 26 by 14 or so with essentially no fire rating being that it has no insulation. I cannot see why one would try to protect guns in a house fire, where 10 to 15 guns is of miniscule importance compared to everything else. maybe if you are going to store your family's papers, your $100,000 coin collection, etc. Yes but other than that insurance is a better deal. Mine holds 6 long guns and has 6 shelves for pistols and ammo. I was having moisture problems until I put in a "golden rod" type heater that I made. The safe is lag bolted to the wall with 6 - 3X.5" bolts(probably the most important thing). The way I look at, if you put it in the open, it better be HEAVY and pretty, but if you are going to hide it then it need not be too strong or look good. Other than that professional crook, which locks and safes are just an inconvienence, the rest are looking for the money on the dresser, the new flat screen, or the gun on your night stand. A safe is generaly too much trouble and they wouldn't be equipped with the tools needed to get in most any safe.
Well guns are a investment and most think that way. Mine is 75% antique and the remaining are modern day. I also keep a few important papers and a couple pieces of jewelry in it since my safety deposit box at the bank is full.