Black Rifles AR Stock

kg4kpg

Member
So, what stock are you running and why? What's the good, bad and ugly? Since I'm not on the tactical route I was considering dropping the stock M4 stock for a regular, fixed stock. Prolly fire mostly from the bench or the prone wasting prairie dogs. I'm on a budget but nt a super tight budget but I also don't plan to go to a basic A2 stock. I kind of like the Double Star Skeleton stock.

Chris
 

kg4kpg

Member
Which one is he using? I've seen three of theres. I like the PRS and UBR. I like their M93 Modular Stock as well.
 

Clicker

Member
Always been a full stock myself - A2 all the way. However M16MANIAC and his brother have worn me down and I bought a Magpul UBR recently. (Actually bought two but one is a Chinese made version.)

I've not shot with it very much but it's a nice stock although a heavy one when compared to most CAR stocks. That's OK on a target or varmint gun IMO.

The main advantage to me is the fact that the cheek rest is fixed but the butt pad section extends. The length of pull is as long or longer than an A2 stock - another plus for a baboon armed person like myself.
 

HHB Guns

New Member
Dont even get me started on stocks....The last two weeks have been hell on me with stocks on my 16. collapsible wont work at all so I ended up going with a fixed Rock river operator A2 stock. It still has some cool points over its brother the Fixed A2.
 
If there are budget concerns then I have to ask the seemingly obvious question:

Why are you going to swap stocks in the first place?

A fixed stock cannot give you the Length of Pull that a collapsible gives you but the reverse is true. Why not just leave the CAR/M4 stock fully-extended?

Is the issue cheek-weld? There are riser cheek rests for that that should be cheaper and more expedient than replacing the buttstock.

When using body armor or firing from the ground (i.e. not from a standing position) a collapsible buttstock is a godsend. If you're just going to take the rifle into your backyard or to a range for a half an hour then it isn't a necessity or even a luxury but a novelty. But, then again, if your gun already has a collapsible buttstock.... why switch?

The reason why you are contemplating a change could help everyone be able to better answer your query.
 

Midnight Raver

Active Member
WHY are you asking in such a bold manner? He is only having a discussion about stocks...

Relax, have an iced tea, enjoy the conversation- perhaps you need a little Russian Standard to mellow out a bit tovarich?



Take two shots and call me in the morning. ;)
 

Clicker

Member
Avtomat-Acolyte said:
But, then again, if your gun already has a collapsible buttstock.... why switch?
The reason why you are contemplating a change could help everyone be able to better answer your query.
The OP stated the primary use would be as target/varmint gun. The M4 CAR stock simply sucks in such a role, it wobbles, rattles and offers a crappy check weld.
The Chinese UBR's run $100 and the Magpul ACS is in the same range. I would think a used one could be found for significantly less. I don't want to come off as a Magpul fanboy so a LMT SOPMOD might be another option.

I have an ancient Choate fixed stock with a hand hook in it that's on my 24" barreled target/varmint rig.
 

kg4kpg

Member
Well, I'm not set on changing, just discussing really but if I find a stock I like I'll probably grab one. My rifle primarily for target shooting or varminting. Since the Army won't let me take it when I deploy and I'm not a LEO of any type, no need for the short length and I doubt I'll need body armor except when deployed. Now, if my old ass could get a cool job kicking in doors, I'm there. I want to push my little bullets out there as far as I can and it's been my experience that a fixed stock is better for me. I'll hit what I want at any range regardless of what configuration I use though.*

*At least to the rifles maximum capability.
 
There are several choices when it comes to fixed stocks. There are standard A2 buttstocks and then there are shorter "entry" buttstocks.
The A2 buttstock would probably serve your requirements more.

If you're wanting to push your rifle to maximum potential have you considered changing upper receivers, too? I presume your barrel length is 16"... you could go ahead and convert your rifle to standard M16A2/M16A4 configuration by emplacing a 20" barreled upper receiver. Of course, you mentioned cost was an issue, and swapping uppers as well as buttstocks generally begs the question of "Why not just have another AR?"

Many people with ARs (or AKs, for that matter) have a 20" rifle, a 16" carbine and even a 7" or 10" short barrel rifle.

I am contemplating an A2 rifle to add to my collection. I don't want to remove the 16" carbine I have from it's existence but do appreciate the improved accuracy and ballistics of the 20" barrel.

The "why" question I asked wasn't a "OMFG WHY ARE YOU CONSIDERING SOMETHING LIKE THIS" exclamation of disgust but a "If you would detail the parameters of your requirements and the reasoning behind the limitations you dictate a more accurate response could be offered." I apologize for not clarifying my desire for clarification. ?Claro?
 
Midnight Raver said:
WHY are you asking in such a bold manner? He is only having a discussion about stocks...

Relax, have an iced tea, enjoy the conversation- perhaps you need a little Russian Standard to mellow out a bit tovarich?



Take two shots and call me in the morning. ;)
Thanks raver. That was a good drink. I do not think they serve dat stuff at AR15.com :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Frost

Active Member
Russian Standard is very good stuff.
I get very mild to no hangover when I drink it.

A word of warning though.
Do not drink a bottle and a half at one sitting.
It will give you food poisoning and you will have to call in sick.
 

Midnight Raver

Active Member
lafayette gregory said:
Thanks raver. That was a good drink. I do not think they serve dat stuff at AR15.com :lol: :lol: :lol:
Perhaps they should be a little more open minded! :mrgreen:

Wonderful stuff that Russian vodka, it works miracles- remind me some time to tell you about some of its benefits to mankind. :cool:
 

Midnight Raver

Active Member
Frost said:
Russian Standard is very good stuff.
I get very mild to no hangover when I drink it.

A word of warning though.
Do not drink a bottle and a half at one sitting.
It will give you food poisoning and you will have to call in sick.
Bah, you just wanted to play hooky that day. :lol:

I just wake up with a smile! :cool:
 
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